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 Foreign programmes usually retained their original soundtracks, with subtitles.
-The Yugoslavian station was also available in [[Hungary]].
+Northern Yugoslavian stations were also available in [[Hungary]].
 In the years following the dissolution of the federation in 1991, at least two of the new countries are known to have had the [[TV Movie]] -- [[Croatia]] and [[Slovenia]]; see those separate profiles for more details.

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 It's not clear why the three serials would have aired out of order, particularly given the linked narrative between the first and third serials.
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 The same episode was then shown again two days later, each Sunday from '''9 August 1987''' to '''25 October 1987''', again with various different start times, between 9.10am and 11am.
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 It is highly likely that these three stories / twelve episodes were shown in other regions; we have not been able to access other regional newspapers to confirm.
-The 1996 [[TV Movie]] was later shown on TV in the newly-independent '''[[Croatia]]''' and released on VHS in '''[[Slovenia]]''' -- see the separate profile pages for those two countries.
+From '''1996''', programmes on video-tape were supplied by the [[BFBS]] / SSVC service to British peace-keeping forces stationed in '''Bosnia''' following the recent civil war.
-From '''1996''', programmes on video-tape were supplied by the [[BFBS]] / SSVC service to British peace-keeping forces stationed in '''Bosnia''' following the recent civil war.
+The Paul McGann [[TV Movie]] was likely shown in the late 90s / early 2000s, and/or released on VHS in the newly-independent states.

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 Yugoslavia began its television service in 1956, adopting the [[Wikipedia:PAL|PAL]] colour broadcast system in 1971.
-There was just one television station: '''[[wikipedia: Yugoslavian Radio Television|Jugoslovenska Radiotelevizija]]''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster based in Belgrade, although each region operated its own channel with separate schedules, although broadcasts could be viewed by neighbouring states.
+There was just one television station: '''[[wikipedia: Yugoslavian Radio Television|Jugoslovenska Radiotelevizija]]''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster based in Belgrade, however each region operated its own channel with separate schedules; these broadcasts could be viewed by neighbouring states.
 Foreign programmes usually retained their original soundtracks, with subtitles.
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 ==Transmission==
 '''[[Croatia|CROATIA]]'''

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 Following political and civil unrest in mid-1991, the states that made up Yugoslavia split from the Federation to form seven new independent nations: Bosnia and Herzegovina, [[Croatia]], Kosovo, Macedonia, Montenegro, Serbia, and [[Slovenia]].
-This profile deals with Yugoslavia as it was in 1986.
+This profile deals with Yugoslavia as it was in the 1980s.
 ==Profile==
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-|'''Television commenced'''||1971||
+|'''Television commenced'''||1956||
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 |'''Colour System'''||1971||[[:Wikipedia:PAL|PAL]]
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 ==Television Stations / Channels==
 [[File:YugoZagreb.JPG|right|thumb]]
-Yugoslavia began its television service in 1971, adopting the [[Wikipedia:PAL|PAL]] colour broadcast system.
+Yugoslavia began its television service in 1956, adopting the [[Wikipedia:PAL|PAL]] colour broadcast system in 1971.
-There was just one television station: '''[[wikipedia: Yugoslavian Radio Television|Jugoslovenska Radiotelevizija]]''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster based in Belgrade, which operates two channels. Each region has its own channel.
+There was just one television station: '''[[wikipedia: Yugoslavian Radio Television|Jugoslovenska Radiotelevizija]]''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster based in Belgrade, although each region operated its own channel with separate schedules, although broadcasts could be viewed by neighbouring states.
 Foreign programmes usually retained their original soundtracks, with subtitles.
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 {| {{small-table}}
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-|4D||[[Revenge of the Cybermen]]||4||Osveta Cybermena
+|||||||'''Croatian title'''||'''Slovenian title'''
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 |4A||[[Robot]]||4
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-|4C||[[The Ark in Space]]?||4
+|4C||[[The Ark in Space]]||4||||Ladja v Vesolju
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 The same three serials had also been sold to [[France]] and [[Greece]] the same year, presumably as part of a "Europe package".
-The series would have been supplied as PAL colour video tapes with English soundtracks, which aired presumably with Serbo-Croatian, Slovene, and/or Macedonian subtitles.
+The series would have been supplied as PAL colour video tapes with English soundtracks, which aired presumably with Serbo-Croatian, Slovene, and/or Macedonian subtitles. (Croatian and Slovenian newspapers provide the different story titles noted above.)
 (Although the station was also available in [[Hungary]], there would not have also been Hungarian / Magyar subtitles.)
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 ==Transmission==
-The first story was '''"Osveta Cybermena"''' ([[Revenge of the Cybermen]]).
+'''[[Croatia|CROATIA]]'''
 The second serial, '''19 and 26 October''' (2.00 to 2.50pm / 2.14 to 3.05pm) was identified from the listings synopsis as [[Robot]] (see below).
-The third and final serial, on '''2 and 9 November''' (2.15 to 3.05pm) was not identified in the listings, but was likely to be [[The Ark in Space]], as that was also sold to other countries in Europe. (''Glas Podravine'' gives the 9 November timeslot as 2.15 to 3.15pm.)
+The third and final serial, [[The Ark in Space]], aired on '''2 and 9 November''' (2.15 to 3.05pm; ''Glas Podravine'' also gives a longer 9 November timeslot of 2.15 to 3.15pm); this was not identified by title in the Croatian listings, but was in Slovenian papers.
 It's not clear why the three serials would have aired out of order, particularly given the linked narrative between the first and third serials.
-Yugoslavia did not screen further classic '''Doctor Who''' after 1986, however the 1996 [[TV Movie]] was later shown on TV in '''[[Croatia]]''' and released on VHS in '''[[Slovenia]]''' -- see the separate profile pages for those two countries.
 From '''1996''', programmes on video-tape were supplied by the [[BFBS]] / SSVC service to British peace-keeping forces stationed in '''Bosnia''' following the recent civil war.
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-Listings are from the Zagreb newspaper, ''Vjesnik'' and the online edition of ''Glas Podravine'' (available at [http://library.foi.hr/novine/default.aspx?C=20&G=20&godina=1986&broj=&stranica= GLAS PODRAVINE]).
+The Croatian listings are from the Zagreb newspaper, ''Vjesnik'' and the online edition of ''Glas Podravine'' (available at [http://library.foi.hr/novine/default.aspx?C=20&G=20&godina=1986&broj=&stranica= GLAS PODRAVINE]).
 All listings were for '''"Doktor Who"''', which was described as a '''"serijski film za djecu"''', which is "film series for children".
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 (Mezgoradu / Mozgoradu is probably the Croatian equivalent of Thinktank.)
 ==Websites==

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 ==Profile==
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 Yugoslavia began its television service in 1971, adopting the [[Wikipedia:PAL|PAL]] colour broadcast system.
-There is just one television station: '''[[wikipedia: Yugoslavian Radio Television|Jugoslovenska Radiotelevizija]]''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster based in Belgrade, which operates two channels. Each region has its own channel.
+There was just one television station: '''[[wikipedia: Yugoslavian Radio Television|Jugoslovenska Radiotelevizija]]''', a government-owned commercial broadcaster based in Belgrade, which operates two channels. Each region has its own channel.
 Foreign programmes usually retained their original soundtracks, with subtitles.
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 The Yugoslavian station was also available in [[Hungary]].
-=='''DOCTOR WHO IN YUGOSLAVIA / CROATIA (DOKTOR WHO)'''==
 [[File:YugoDWho.JPG|right|thumb]]
-Yugoslavia (Croatia) was about the '''61st''' country to screen '''Doctor Who''' (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]). It was the '''seventh''' in Europe.
+Yugoslavia was about the '''61st''' country to screen '''Doctor Who''' (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]). It was the '''seventh''' in Europe.
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-Yugoslavia (Croatia) therefore bought three GROUP A [[Tom Baker stories]].
+Yugoslavia therefore bought three GROUP A [[Tom Baker stories]].
 The same three serials had also been sold to [[France]] and [[Greece]] the same year, presumably as part of a "Europe package".
-The series would have been supplied as PAL colour video tapes with English soundtracks, which aired with Croatian subtitles.
+The series would have been supplied as PAL colour video tapes with English soundtracks, which aired presumably with Serbo-Croatian, Slovene, and/or Macedonian subtitles.
-(Although the station was also available in [[Hungary]], there would not have been a second set of subtitles.)
+(Although the station was also available in [[Hungary]], there would not have also been Hungarian / Magyar subtitles.)
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 The second serial, '''19 and 26 October''' (2.00 to 2.50pm / 2.14 to 3.05pm) was identified from the listings synopsis as [[Robot]] (see below).
-The third and final serial, on '''2 and 9 November''' (2.15 to 3.05pm) was not identified in the listings, but was likely to be [[The Ark in Space]]. (''Glas Podravine'' gives the 9 November timeslot as 2.15 to 3.15pm.)
+The third and final serial, on '''2 and 9 November''' (2.15 to 3.05pm) was not identified in the listings, but was likely to be [[The Ark in Space]], as that was also sold to other countries in Europe. (''Glas Podravine'' gives the 9 November timeslot as 2.15 to 3.15pm.)
 It's not clear why the three serials would have aired out of order, particularly given the linked narrative between the first and third serials.
-There is no clear record that "Yugoslavia" (or Croatia) screened further classic '''Doctor Who''' after 1986.
+Yugoslavia did not screen further classic '''Doctor Who''' after 1986, however the 1996 [[TV Movie]] was later shown on TV in '''[[Croatia]]''' and released on VHS in '''[[Slovenia]]''' -- see the separate profile pages for those two countries.
-From '''1996''', programmes on video-tape were supplied by the [[BFBS]] / SSVC service to British peace-keeping forces in Bosnia, stationed there following the recent civil war.
+From '''1996''', programmes on video-tape were supplied by the [[BFBS]] / SSVC service to British peace-keeping forces stationed in '''Bosnia''' following the recent civil war.
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 :'' In the first episode of >>Revenge of the Cybermen<<, the Doctor, Sarah and Harry return to the Nerva, the space base, and discover that the Tardis has shifted a few thousand years back, a space station plague, and even the few survivors. And Sarah is the victim of a mysterious virus. The Doctor discovers that the Cybermen are responsible for the infection: bubonic plague is not a disease but a poison that is transmitted by mechanical rat-like Cybermats ...''
-(It's not clear where the figure of '''246''' comes from; by 1986 the episode count was nearing '''646'''; 246 is probably a misprint of 646.)
+(It's not clear where the figure of '''246''' comes from; by 1986 the episode count was nearing '''646'''; 246 is probably a misprint of that.)
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 ==Websites==
-The [[New Series]] of '''Doctor Who''' was mentioned in this (now closed) Croatian website ([http://www.easycroatian.com/page93.html Do Croats ‘get’ the series?]), but also has a general reference to the "old series":
+The new series of '''Doctor Who''' was mentioned in this (now closed) Croatian website ([https://web.archive.org/web/20100202160404/http://www.easycroatian.com/page93.html Do Croats ‘get’ the series?]) which also has a general reference to the "old series":
 *"The problem with the reception of '''Doctor Who''' in Croatia lies in the fact that it has been ‘marketed’ (and scheduled) as a show for kids, which – despite some episodes – it is not. On top of that, '''the gap between the airings of the original series (way back when) and the new is so large''', the ‘new’ Doctor Who was completely lost on the generations that might have watched or have watched the ‘old’ series."
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 * It was because of the 1984 Winter Olympics in Yugoslavia that the BBC was forced to re-edit [[Resurrection of the Daleks]] and screen it as two-45 minute episodes.
 * The abandoned Coast to Coast '''Doctor Who''' movie was to have some of its location filming in Yugoslavia.
-*Two stories of the [[New Series|2010 series]] of '''Doctor Who''' were filmed in Croatia: '''"The Vampires of Venice"''' and '''"Vincent and the Doctor"'''.
+*Goran Višnjić (who appeared as Nikola Tesla in the 2020 season of the [[New Series]]) was born in Šibenik, Croatia in 1972.
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 *[[Main Page]]
 *[[Broadcasts around the World]]
 *[[Articles & Analysis]]
 *[[BBC Records]]

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 There is no clear record that "Yugoslavia" (or Croatia) screened further classic '''Doctor Who''' after 1986.
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 * The city Belgrade is mentioned in [[Frontier in Space]].
 * The Doctor's companion Tegan Jovanka was named after Yugoslav President [[wikipedia:Tito|Tito]]'s wife, Jovanka.
 * It was because of the 1984 Winter Olympics in Yugoslavia that the BBC was forced to re-edit [[Resurrection of the Daleks]] and screen it as two-45 minute episodes.
 * The abandoned Coast to Coast '''Doctor Who''' movie was to have some of its location filming in Yugoslavia.