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 Also not revealed was the format -- was it colour or black and white? "The World About Us" aired on BBC2, and a such all editions would have been in colour. If it was in black and white, it's possible it was intended for an overseas broadcaster yet to convert to colour.
-"The World About Us" was a regular feature in the BBC's sales catalogues, and as such was probably sold to many countries around the world – it definitely sold to [[Malaysia]], [[Australia]] and [[New Zealand]]. (Exact airdates for New Zealand are not known, but the series did play in colour from late 1973, 1974 and 1975.) The Australian screenings commenced soon after the UK debut. (The earliest OCR listing we could find online was for "Beyond the Last Oasis", the episode that was aired by the Sydney and Canberra ABC channel on 25 December 1968; this episode had screened in the UK on 4 February of that same year.)
+"The World About Us" was a regular feature in the BBC's sales catalogues, and as such was probably sold to many countries around the world – it definitely sold to [[Malaysia]], [[Australia]] and [[New Zealand]]. (The earliest listing we could find in NZ was in '''January 1969''', the last was in '''1984'''. Colour episodes first aired from late 1973.) The Australian screenings commenced soon after the UK debut. (The earliest OCR listing we could find online was for "Beyond the Last Oasis", the episode that was aired by the Sydney and Canberra ABC channel on 25 December 1968; this episode had screened in the UK on 4 February of that same year.)
 Malaysia aired the series in black and white during the 1970s.

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 :*"Once a Mormon Church in Wandsworth phoned the Beeb and said: 'We've got a lot of your film cans in the basement, you might at least want the cans back.' In that pile were two episodes of War in the Air and two of Dalek Masterplan (from 1964), the longest Dr Who story ever made, at 12 episodes."
-Here he recalls there being two prints of "[https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?q=%22war+in+the+air%22#top War in the Air]", which is a BBC series from the mid-1950s. Could it have actually been an error on ''DWM's'' part, and it was in fact this 1950s series rather than the 1970s series "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warship_(TV_series) Warship]"?
+Here he recalls there being two prints of "[https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?adv=1&q=%22war+in+the+air%22&media=tv&yf=1923&yt=2009&mf=1&mt=12&tf=00%3A00&tt=00%3A00#search War in the Air]", which is a BBC series from the mid-1950s. Could it have actually been an error on ''DWM's'' part, and it was in fact this 1950s series rather than the 1970s series "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warship_(TV_series) Warship]"?
 In all likelihood, Bryant is getting his facts slightly askew here, miss-remembering the title of the "War" series and number of prints that had been found in the cellar.

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 :*"Once a Mormon Church in Wandsworth phoned the Beeb and said: 'We've got a lot of your film cans in the basement, you might at least want the cans back.' In that pile were two episodes of War in the Air and two of Dalek Masterplan (from 1964), the longest Dr Who story ever made, at 12 episodes."
-Here he recalls there being two prints of "[http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?adv=1&q=%22war+in+the+air%22&media=tv&yf=1923&yt=2009&mf=1&mt=12&tf=00%3A00&tt=00%3A00#search War in the Air]", which is a BBC series from the mid-1950s. Could it have actually been an error on ''DWM's'' part, and it was in fact this 1950s series rather than the 1970s series "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warship_(TV_series) Warship]"?
+Here he recalls there being two prints of "[https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?q=%22war+in+the+air%22#top War in the Air]", which is a BBC series from the mid-1950s. Could it have actually been an error on ''DWM's'' part, and it was in fact this 1950s series rather than the 1970s series "[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warship_(TV_series) Warship]"?
 In all likelihood, Bryant is getting his facts slightly askew here, miss-remembering the title of the "War" series and number of prints that had been found in the cellar.

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 ===Warship (1 episode)===
 [[File:Warshipcaption.jpg|200px|frameless|left]]
-[[File:WarshipABC1976.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Warship debut listing for Melbourne, Australia; 11 February 1976]]
+[[File:WarshipABC1976.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Warship debut listing for Adelaide, Australia; 11 February 1976]]
 [[File:WarshipRTS1976.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Warship episode 2 in Singapore; 12 August 1976]]
 [[File:ABCWarship.JPG|right|thumb|550px|BBC sales brochures for "Warship" series 1 (b/w and colour) and 2 (colour only)]]

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−	:'''ADDENDA''': The ABC's audition reports for '''"Warship"''' have been located on file at the National Archives of Australia in Sydney, and they confirm that the first episode of the series, "Hot Pursuit", was viewed on '''10 January 1974''' (some seven months after the UK airdate), and that it was indeed a 16mm telerecording print! (The BBC's sales brochure for the first series states that the nine episodes were available on "Colour videotape" and "16mm monochrome".)	+	:'''ADDENDA''': The ABC's audition reports for '''"Warship"''' have been located on file at the National Archives of Australia in Sydney, and they confirm that the first episode of the series, "Hot Pursuit", was viewed on '''10 January 1974''' (some seven months after the UK airdate), and that it was indeed a 16mm telerecording print! (The BBC's sales brochure for the first series that was sent to the ABC states that the nine episodes were available on "Colour videotape" and "16mm monochrome".)

	:The typed audition report gave it a <tt>"FAIR TO GOOD" </tt> grade for its entertainment value, commenting that <tt>"If we wish to take it for colour, perhaps a later ep could be requested for audition? At this particular stage, the decision to take the series would hinge greatly on how much drama we have, and whether the colour footage is of intrinsic importance…" </tt>		:The typed audition report gave it a <tt>"FAIR TO GOOD" </tt> grade for its entertainment value, commenting that <tt>"If we wish to take it for colour, perhaps a later ep could be requested for audition? At this particular stage, the decision to take the series would hinge greatly on how much drama we have, and whether the colour footage is of intrinsic importance…" </tt>

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 But the fan reports that the building was once owned by the BBC and had been converted into a Church are clearly false, considering that site has been occupied by a Mormon place of worship of some description since 1935. Here is a brief history of the church at that location:
-*149 Nightingale was the site of "Ravenslea", a large Victorian detached house. It was built just before the turn of the century and was then the residence of a London architect. ([http://yorkshiretales.com/ashoutfromtheattic/page_in_the_army.php REFERENCE 1]) and ([https://archive.org/stream/millennialstar11001eng/millennialstar11001eng_djvu.txt REFERENCE 2])
+*149 Nightingale was the site of "Ravenslea", a large Victorian detached house. It was built just before the turn of the century and was then the residence of a London architect. ([http://yorkshiretales.com/ashoutfromtheattic/page_in_the_army.php Reference 1]) and ([https://archive.org/stream/millennialstar11001eng/millennialstar11001eng_djvu.txt Reference 2])
-*In '''1935''', "Ravenslea" was purchased by Hugh Brown for the Mormon church. In '''1939''' it became the headquarters for the British Mission. Ravenslea was a large house, and combined the mission offices, the family residence, and a chapel under the same roof. The ballroom was often used for dances and other social events. At that time it was the only mission for the whole of the British Isles. ([http://signaturebookslibrary.org/4-zinas-17/ REFERENCE])
+*In '''1935''', "Ravenslea" was purchased by Hugh Brown for the Mormon church. In '''1939''' it became the headquarters for the British Mission. Ravenslea was a large house, and combined the mission offices, the family residence, and a chapel under the same roof. The ballroom was often used for dances and other social events. At that time it was the only mission for the whole of the British Isles. ([http://signaturebookslibrary.org/4-zinas-17/ Reference])
-*The privately-owned building stood on half an acre of land, and during the war served as a refuge during German bombing raids. ([https://archive.org/stream/millennialstar11006eng/millennialstar11006eng_djvu.txt REFERENCE])
+*The privately-owned building stood on half an acre of land, and during the war served as a refuge during German bombing raids. ([https://archive.org/stream/millennialstar11006eng/millennialstar11006eng_djvu.txt Reference])
-*In '''1948''' it underwent remodelling, but the Victorian building was completely demolished in the '''late 1960s''', to make way for a modern church, the new Wandsworth chapel, which was completed in '''1977'''. ([http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/06/05/making-available-to-faithful-members-1952/ REFERENCE 1] and [http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/06/05/making-available-to-faithful-members-1952/ REFERENCE 2])
+*In '''1948''' it underwent remodelling, but the Victorian building was completely demolished in the '''late 1960s''', to make way for a modern church, the new Wandsworth chapel, which was completed in '''1977'''. ([http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/06/05/making-available-to-faithful-members-1952/ Reference 1] and [http://www.keepapitchinin.org/2012/06/05/making-available-to-faithful-members-1952/ Reference 2])
-*The Wandsworth stake was one of 21 new stakes organized in the 1970s. ([http://www.cumorah.com/index.php?target=view_country_reports&story_id=59 REFERENCE])
+*The Wandsworth stake was one of 21 new stakes organized in the 1970s. ([http://www.cumorah.com/index.php?target=view_country_reports&story_id=59 Reference])
-*The new Chapel had its "unit creation date" on '''28 May 1978'''. ([http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hQCJxBnXHCcJ:www.ldschurchtemples.com/statistics/unit/london-england-wandsworth-stake/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz REFERENCE])
+*The new Chapel had its "unit creation date" on '''28 May 1978'''. ([http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hQCJxBnXHCcJ:www.ldschurchtemples.com/statistics/unit/london-england-wandsworth-stake/+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=nz Reference])
-*And during '''1979''' and '''1980''', alterations were made to the church by noted architect Leslie Gooday. ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Gooday REFERENCE])
+*And during '''1979''' and '''1980''', alterations were made to the church by noted architect Leslie Gooday. ([http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leslie_Gooday Reference])
 *In '''July 1983''' several cans of film belonging to the BBC were found (supposedly) in the '''six year old''' church's basement…
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 [[File:WarshipABC1976.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Warship debut listing for Melbourne, Australia; 11 February 1976]]
 [[File:WarshipRTS1976.jpg|thumb|right|350px|Warship episode 2 in Singapore; 12 August 1976]]
 The other named episode found in the church was from '''"[[Wikipedia:Warship (TV series)|Warship]]"''', as was reported in ''DWM 82'' --  or was it "War in the Air", as stated by Bryant in 1991?
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 The fact that three countries in the same region, [[Australia]], [[New Zealand]] and [[Singapore]], all debuted "Warship" within a few months of each other in 1976, means that the sale to Australia affected when the other two could screen the series. And only Australia would have used an audition print in black and white. On that basis, we feel sure that the copy of "Warship" found in 1983 was indeed the ABC's audition print, and that it would have been returned to the BBC by the late 1970s…
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